"Fountain of Youth" on YouTube!!!

[tonyw]

Tony, I assume you are joking. Otherwise, this means you have to do some more research on Hollywood actors.

[Tony]

No, TonyW, I'm deadly serious; let there be no frivolity on this web-site. I've already made a formal request to Jeff that all threads indulging in humour be deleted and proper warnings be issued. I think Orson would want it that way.

[Glenn Anders]

After watching the Impeachment Hearings on George W. Bush and Dick Chaney (whose Dark Knights on the Judiciary Committee insisted must not be referred to by name), and having coffee with gorgeous, smart Melinda, my daughter, a Fountain of Youth unto herself, I staggered down Geary Street, gasping for breath as usual these days, and innocently came to the door of The Ha-Ra Club. Rare as a warm San Francisco summer afternoon, the door was open, and I entered its dark confines, hoping that Todd Baesen might be slouched at the far end of the bar. Instead, I found Cleveland John, who pointed to the open cellar door.

In the cellar, as I trepidaciously tiptoed down its cobwebby steps, I discovered not Cruel Carl nor Aleister Crowley but He Whose Name Must Not Be Mentioned. Fortunately, fires were not being started and plans to butcher Wellesnet Unbelievers were still in abeyance. And so I was given a boon in the form of a riddle, wrapped in an Enigma.

He, whom we shall call "Fireman Rick," told me that lore had come to him that a minor actor named Tim McIntyre, someone once in the motorcade of the Kennedy Assassination, a narrator of several JFK documentaries, once in the movie SHENANDOAH with Jimmy Stewart, is another one of Orson Welles' long lost sons.

Can anyone cooborrate that wild identification?

It might figure in our search for the person who is said to be editing THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND.

Don't any of you try this. I don't think even Larry French, certainly not Baesen, could get away with it.

I fortunately escaped the cellar, and returned to tell thee the tale.

Glenn

[Tony]

didn't you hear, Glenn? The studio janitor is editing TOSOTW; he just happens to be Orson's nephew, son of Oja's sister, and the tiny star of Fake!

[Glenn Anders]

NOW, TONY, circumspect as I must be about the arcane rituals carried on in the cellar of The Ha-Ra Club by Cruel Carl, Aleister Crowley (revivified), and George W. Bush or Dick Chaney (when one or both of the latter two are in town), I raise a serious question, which entreats a serious answer: Does anyone have information that confirms or denies the origins of Mr. McIntyre?

It's a serious question, no matter how whimsical my presentation of it may seem.

Glenn

[mido505]

Glenn, you are such a bloody tease!

Tim McIntires's mother was Jeannette Nolan, whose film debut was, of course, as Lady Macbeth in Welles' 1948 film version of the Scottish play. Nolan, who had never before appeared on stage or on screen, was an accomplished radio actress who had worked regularly with Welles throughout the 30's and 40's, as a Mercury Radio player and on The March of Time. Tim was born in 1944.

Tim's biography can be found here: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0570625/bio

Tim's most famous film role was as the dynamic Alan Freed in American Hot Wax, a great performance. He provided the voice of "Blood", the mutant canine in the cult hit A Boy and His Dog, and was an accomplished singer, musician, and composer. Troubled by drug and alcohol addiction, he died in 1986 at age 42.

I have no idea whether Orson Welles was actually Tim's Daddy, but this line in the paragraph is remarkably telling: "Handsome and husky, with a deep, rich and commanding voice of exceptionally exquisite sonority..."

BTW, there seems to be some confusion between Tim McIntire, above, and the Tim McIntyre who was in the Kennedy motorcade and who narrates a couple of assasination docs. They are two different people.

[tonyw]

I've also read some time ago that Tim was the son of Orson and Jeanette and that John McIntire generously gave his surname to the son of this union.

[Glenn Anders]

Thank you, mido505 and tonyw, for straightening me out, as usual.

Yes, it would make sense that Welles, Jeanette Nolan and John McIntire, thrown together in radio shows such as "The March of Time" from 1935, when the latter married, might have settled such a problem as Tim in a civilized manner.

And thank you, mido505, for pointing up that confusion about Tim McIntyre and Tim McIntire. I jotted down the former spelling at The Ha-Ra Club, yesterday. [We're back to Alexander Welles, Sasha Welles, and Sasa Devic again.] Had I put down the latter spelling, the connection with John McIntire might have come to me. The funny thing is that both these Tim's look remarkably alike, and both are remarked upon for the rich qualities of their voices. Both did much of their work in narration and voice over.

And a final, poignant note is that Tim McIntire should have died of alcohol and drug abuse, age 42, in 1986 -- a year after Welles' death.

Maybe, more will surface.

Glenn

[Alan Brody]

Here's a still from American Hot Wax. If that's him, he did look like Welles.

[mido505]

Thanks for the pic, Alan. I searched in vain for one this morning.

Here is a link to the trailer for A Boy and His Dog. I don't know if Tim did the narration, as well as voicing Blood, but it sure sounds like you know who... http://us.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1454637337/

Keep 'em coming, Glenn!

[Glenn Anders]

Thank you, Alan, and thank you, mido505.

The still from AMERICAN HOT WAX is an extraordinary likeness, is it not? I never saw the film, but I remember that the actor who played Alan Freed, "the inventor of Rock n' Roll," received extraordinary reviews. As a kid, I used to watch Alan Freed, when he was a TV disk jockey in Cleveland (before he went to New York). When I read the publicity for AMERICAN HOT WAX, I thought, this guy doesn't look much like Alan Freed, but I failed to twig at the time who he did look like.

Of course, we should not forget this Tim McIntyre:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timothy_mc ... 515950636/

Nor this actor:

The Reverend Tim McIntire, featured as "The Curious Moviegoer" in THE EPIC TALE OF KALESIUS AND CLOTHO: A MEDITATION ON THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF ROMANTIC LOVE IN A RAPIDLY EXPANDING UNIVERSE (2003).

But if we explore that possibility, we are once more descending into the cellar world of Larry French, Todd Baesen and Aleister Crowley at The Ha-Ra Club.

Better not go there.

You might want to look at a little article I adapted from a wellesnet. org post on the above subject, however, over in The Red Room, where I now have an Author's Page:

http://www.redroom.com/articlestory/anc ... -aleister-

Glenn

[jbrooks]

Wow, there is certainly a resemblance. Here are some scenes from
"American Hot Wax" (Skip the Jay Leno bits)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3k-teQmZpg

[purplepines]

Tim is playing the blond roommate Charlie Shoemaker in this YouTube clip of "The Sterile Cuckoo" (1969). He was 25 at the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88gI3cM ... re=related

[jbrooks]

Here are some pictures of John McIntire --

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... n%26sa%3DX

I'd say Tim looks a lot more like Welles than like his father, but tying down family resemblances can be tricky and hopelessly subjective.

Has speculation about the Tim-Orson connection appeared in any respectable source?

[Glenn Anders]

The Fountain of Youth, indeed, gang: Young Jay Leno, Fran Dresher, and a rejuvenated Orson Welles. If Tim McIntire wasn't Welles' son, he was playing Alan Freed as if he were Welles; the hand in the pocket, the slightly avuncular shamble, the cigar, the throwaway conversational style with that great voice! [Perhaps, the idea is that Alan Freed wanted to be Orson Welles, too, but I never saw much evidence of that during his rumpled performances in Cleveland. And believe me, I would have noticed.]

Well done. Well done.

Cruel Carl, Aleister Crowley and Todd Baesen are doing cartwheels with our new hero, Colby Buzzell, down in the cellar.

Glenn