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Re: Citizen Kane and the Thorne Rooms

Postby Le Chiffre » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:53 am

Yes, the Ambersons mansion seems full of them. This Thorne Room looks similar to the Ambersons dining room:

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Likewise, the room in this picture of Mrs. Thorne could almost be an Ambersons bedroom:

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Leaming also talks about the Thorne Room effect on this party scene in CITIZEN KANE, where Kane seems trapped in a window while others discuss his fate, like the childhood snow scene:

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Some of the special effects in KING KONG also have a Thorne Room-like quality which may have been an influence on KANE and other Welles films:
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Everglades ballad?

Postby Colmena » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:16 pm

Can anyone identify the song sung in the background during the Everglades party? Welles identifies it, in interview, as a Nat King Cole song, and NKC does a Rogers and Hart song "This Can't be love," but the tune and lyrics are different. When I do a net search for the lyrics, I only get referred back to CK, or to the White Stripes song that quotes it.

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Re: Everglades ballad?

Postby Wellesnet » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:19 am

Not sure if this has what you're looking for or not, but it seems to list the non-Hermann music used in Kane:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033467/soundtrack

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Re: Everglades ballad?

Postby Colmena » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:42 pm

Thanks for that lead. Making use of it, I've gathered that this is the Cee Pee Johnson blues band, and Alton Redd is the vocalist, but there doesn't seem to be any recording of it, that I can track down. Not so far.

I'm still confused as to whether this is also known as "In a Mizz," also authored by Charlie Barnet. And the same "In a Mizz" that Ellington records?? The search goes on...

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Citizen Kane voted #1 American film in BBC poll

Postby Wellesnet » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:07 am

Amber sons and TOE make the list too:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/ju ... m-bbc-poll

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Jean-Paul Sartre on Citizen Kane

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Re: Jean-Paul Sartre on Citizen Kane

Postby Sir Bygber Brown » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:55 am

Ha, seems like you can talk your way out of anything. That's the problem with logic: you can prove things that are ridiculous, like 1 and 1 making 0 or whatever. If Kane isn't cinema then no detective story can be cinema either: both feature reporters or cops in the present investigating the past.
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Re: Citizen Kane voted #1 American film in BBC poll

Postby atcolomb » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:02 pm

Happy to see Ambersons on a best film list again. Sight & Sound had Ambersons in the 1972 & 1982 poll and that's been it for awhile and Touch of Evil on the BBC list too...not bad for having three films chosen

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Citizen Kane - The Entire Film In One Image

Postby Roger Ryan » Wed May 18, 2016 3:10 pm

As part of a photographic exhibit now on display at the Cob Gallery in London, photographer Jason Shulman pointed his camera at a computer monitor showing Citizen Kane and exposed the negative for the length of the film. The result is every frame from the film is layered in one still image. While the exhibit features other films treated with the same technique, such as The Wizard of Oz and Fantasia, the Kane image is unique in that it is relatively easy to identify the film. I believe this is because Kane contains significantly fewer shots than most features of the period; both Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons are known for lengthy scenes shot from a fixed camera position (more or less). The long scene where Kane signs over The Inquirer to Thatcher certainly makes an impact in this photo as the office windows are clearly visible in the image!

http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/see- ... 7605497404

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Re: Citizen Kane - The Entire Film In One Image

Postby Le Chiffre » Fri May 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Oh, that's neat. Kane looks almost cubist, and the Wizard of Oz looks almost like it has a face in the middle of it, like the Shroud of Turin.

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Citizen Kane - a TV remake proposed by OW in the 50's

Postby Wellesnet » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:36 am

Analysis: Orson Welles’ proposed TV remake of ‘Citizen Kane’ (by Robert Kroll):
http://www.wellesnet.com/analysis-orson ... izen-kane/

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Citizen Walska

Postby Wellesnet » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:16 am

Entertaining and informative article on the Polish-born soprano Ganna Walska, on whom the character of Susan Alexander in "Citizen Kane" is said to have been partially based:
http://culture.pl/en/article/ganna-wals ... den-estate

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Various Kane and Ambersons screenings

Postby Wellesnet » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:23 am

Free Ambersons screening this Friday at the Heritage Museum of Orange County:
http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/news/ ... dium=email



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