Kael & Suber, etc.

[Colmena]

Has this topic been covered before?

In an Oct 2011 NYTimes review of a bio of Pauline Kael we find this:

"The most serious brief against Kael’s professionalism, however, is Kellow’s discovery that she ripped off the research of a U.C.L.A. academic, Howard Suber, for “Raising Kane,” her lengthy 1971 essay about the making of “Citizen Kane.” Adding to that infraction, her piece contained many factual errors of her own, all undetected by New Yorker fact checkers and all contrived to reinforce her anti-auteurist argument that the screenwriter Herman Mankiewicz, not Orson Welles, was the movie’s principal author. “Raising Kane” was omitted from the Library of America volume for reasons of space, according to Schwartz’s introduction, but Kellow’s account suggests it should have been eliminated in any event for its ­improprieties."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/books ... wanted=all

Esp notable since her leading charge contra OW was for ripping off Mank by claiming a co-credit, and look what Pauline is up to!

If you do a search for PK and Howard Suber, then you'll come upon recent interviews with HS saying that she'd "raped" him with this rip.

[Wellesnet]

I believe it has been discussed before, but thanks for mentioning it anyway.

Kael's "Raising Kane":
http://www.paulrossen.com/paulinekael/raisingkane.html

Welles had grown up hearing stories about Hearst from Dr. Maurice Bernstein, who was his guardian after his parents died. Dr. Bernstein was a good friend of Ashton Stevens, who had originally been the drama critic on Hearst’s flagship paper, the San Francisco Examiner, and had gone on to work for Hearst in Chicago. Welles himself was a Hearst-press “discovery”; it was Ashton Stevens, whom Dr. Bernstein got in touch with, who had publicized the nineteen-year-old Orson Welles when he produced Hamlet on a vacant second floor in Illinois.

[RayKelly]

Kael Vs. Kane: Pauline Kael, Orson Welles and the Authorship of Citizen Kane --great piece by Christopher Saunders http://www.soundonsight.org/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/

[tonyw]

Unlike Welles in "Raising Kane" you and wellesnet. get appropriate credit!

[Colmena]

In this excellent essay we have:
"Actor George Coulouris (who played Thatcher, Kane’s guardian) and composer Bernard Herrmann attacked Kael in Sight and Sound’s fall 1972 edition."

Can anyone lead me to these replies by Coulouris and Herrmann, apart from finding the original articles in the library stacks. Much obliged.

Also, given how much criticism has been visited upon Kael essay, I wonder what parts of it Suber would like to take credit for? What was the research that he turned over to her?