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Need Help Finding a Lost Passage

Postby FforFakeName » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:41 pm

Sorry if this post is inappropriate for this board or all-together presumptuous. I don't ask for help flippantly---but as an idiot, too dumb to underline or highlight, I've lost myself in a word jungle without a compass. All my leads are dead, other than re-reading every Welles book I have. Perhaps, though, one of you has the same passage lodged in memory and it's actually palpable to you.

Quick description: Orson is discussing the influence of Citizen Kane with some biographer/interviewer. Orson says that Citizen Kane's influence does not impress him, that depth of field, camera angles, shadows, etc. are only small parts of Kane and that the most interesting elements have rarely or ever been copied.

Ring a bell for anyone? I'm quite sure it was in a book, but obviously it could have come from other media or my mind. I'm assuming someone will have the passage's origin sitting at the top of there head, but otherwise, if it helps, I could post a list of suspect books.

Thank you for your help and patience.

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Re: Need Help Finding a Lost Passage

Postby Terry » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:54 am

That's a perfectly valid question for the board, and sounds like something Welles would have said; I don't recognize where though. Maybe he was referring to the 'Rashomon' thing, retelling the same story or same scenes from different points of view; that seems to have been what most interested him about Kane, the idea of a character coming across as a different person depending on who was remembering him.
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Re: Need Help Finding a Lost Passage

Postby FforFakeName » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:27 am

Terry wrote:That's a perfectly valid question for the board, and sounds like something Welles would have said; I don't recognize where though. Maybe he was referring to the 'Rashomon' thing, retelling the same story or same scenes from different points of view; that seems to have been what most interested him about Kane, the idea of a character coming across as a different person depending on who was remembering him.


Thank you for the response. I'm interested for the sake of citation, so I'm not quite free until I've found the true origin. As to your inference, yes, I believe the 'Rashomon' gimmick/the overall structure of Kane are one of the things Orson goes on to give a higher importance, amongst other things.

My prime suspect at the moment is the Leaming biography, because in my memory the passage is half direct quotation, half paraphrase, which implies that the author had spoken to Welles but it wasn't an interview book, thus the authorized biography makes sense. However, checking all Citizen Kane mentions in the index didn't lead me anywhere.

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Re: Need Help Finding a Lost Passage

Postby WellesFan » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Hmmm. I know the quote. I can't remember the source either. But I heard it within the last 3 months. For some reason, I think that I heard it and not read it. There is a tiny chance that he said it in "Filming The Trial," in response to a student question. Sorry that I can't be of more help.


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