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OW gives Surtees book to Benny for Christmas

Postby Wellesnet » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:01 am

FROM WELLESNET FACEBOOK:

Orson Welles to Bernard Herrmann:
Orson writes to Herrmann, on a copy of ROBERT SMITH SURTEES: Jorrocks's Jaunts & Jollities: A PRESENTATION COPY FROM ORSON WELLES TO BERNARD HERRMANN;

Inscribed "For Benny: much love and merry Christmas from Orson"

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Encyclepedia Britannica describes Surtees' JORROCKS, JAUNTS AND JOLLITIES (1831, 1838), as "a collection of tales (and a prototype for Charles Dickens’s "Pickwick Papers")...". Pickwick was one of the film projects Welles considered as a followup to CITIZEN KANE. It was also done as a Mercury radio program.

A younger son, Surtees left for London in 1825, intending to practice law in the capital, but had difficulty making his way and began contributing to the Sporting Magazine. He launched out on his own with the New Sporting Magazine in 1831, contributing the comic papers which appeared as "Jorrocks' Jaunts and Jollities" in 1838. Jorrocks, the sporting cockney grocer, with his vulgarity and good-natured artfulness, was a great success with the public, and Surtees produced more Jorrocks novels in the same vein. After he inherited his family’s estate the same year, riding to hounds became his passion, and nearly all his writing involved horses and riding.

As a creator of comic personalities, Surtees is still very readable today. Thackeray envied him his powers of observation, while William Morris considered him 'a master of life' and ranked him with Dickens. The novels are engaging and vigorous, and abound with sharp social observation, with a keener eye than Dickens for the natural world. Perhaps Surtees most resembles the Dickens of Pickwick Papers, which was originally intended as mere supporting matter for a series of sporting illustrations to rival Jorrocks. Surtees was fortunate to have as illustrators John Leech and Hablot Knight Browne (“Phiz”), the illustrator of the Pickwick Papers.

Surtees was a mordant satirist. The snobbery, envy, greed, and ignorance that consume many of his characters are set down without geniality. His portrayal of provincial England just leaving the coaching for the railway era exposes its boredom, ill manners, discomfort, and coarse food, and its matter-of-factness makes admirable social history. Yet the descriptions of fast runs with hounds over open country leave the most lasting impression.

Surtees was not amongst the most popular novelists in the nineteenth century. His work lacked the self-conscious idealism, sentimentality and moralism of the Victorian era; the historian Norman Gash asserted that "His leading male characters were coarse or shady; his leading ladies dashing and far from virtuous; his outlook on society satiric to the point of cynicism"...However for the very reasons that the Victorians deprecated him, Surtees' work has continued to be read long after some of his more popular contemporaries have been forgotten.

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Re: OW gives Surtees book to Benny for Christmas

Postby Le Chiffre » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:27 pm

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I’ve been wondering why Welles would take such an interest in Surtees, when his main topic was Foxhunting. I suppose perhaps he was fascinated by the subject the same way he was fascinated by Bullfighting. Here are some bits of conversation found on the Net recently about both of these controversial sports:

Most people asked to come up with a quote about hunting would offer Oscar Wilde’s description of “The English country gentleman galloping after a fox – the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable” from the play A Woman of No Importance. In 2004 the British parliament passed the Hunting Act which banned Fox hunting in England and Wales. But what about Bullfighting? With Spain in the Common Market, why have they not been made to ban this barbaric (was going to say sport) act?

There is no argument that Wilde’s is a typically clever line. It is worth noting, however, that it is delivered by an unpleasant character called Lord Illingworth who, in the same scene, decries democracy and promotes slavery.

Foxhunting in Britain pre-dates the Roman era and is the longest continually practiced sport on Earth. In Germany Fox hunting was first banned on the initiative of Hermann Goring in 1934 and in 1939 the ban was extended to cover Austria after the Anschluss.


Bullfighting has now been banned in Catalonia, the last ever corrida de toros in Barcelona last month brought to an end more than 600 years of tradition and culture. Spain's leading broadcaster announced a ban on televised bullfights "to protect children from viewing violence." But it’s still going on in Madrid and many other Spanish speaking areas.

We have done the wrong thing in banning Fox hunting, thereby increasing Fox populations, decreasing their prey base, ruining wild bird and small mammal populations. Likewise, Bullfighting is not any more cruel than eating a Lamb chop. Killing of animals as sport can be said to be cruel, but hell, we kill off millions and millions of animals for food. So I say a ban is redundant.The Bull is still used as food, and it enjoys its last moments by trying to hook the matador, sometimes succeeding. Why should we look for ways to ban this ancient sport?

You cannot make Spain ban Bullfighting, It is a tradition of theirs, and they don’t give a damn what you or anyone else thinks; they will do it as long as they want. Foxhunting was banned in this country, not because it was cruel, but because it was a minority sport, and in this country the minority doesn’t count.


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Some twats think that this is a "sport". In a sport you have two sides who engage in fair competition. Give the fox a fucking machine gun and a pack of supporters and it would be a "sport". The "sport" was invented by rich landowners in the Middle Ages as a way to enforce their authority over small peasant proprietors, because it provided a good excuse for showing who's boss by trespassing loudly and intrusively on small farmers' property.

A crazed mob of rich rural toffs riding on horses while loudly blowing on large phalluses, the purpose of which is for a fox to be violently and painfully ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs after being chased to exhaustion. In the event that the fox "wins" and goes to earth, the hunters, who are too posh to concede defeat, send a dog down the burrow to kill it.


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Agreed. Fox hunting was not invented as a sport or as a way of controlling the fox population. It was invented so the local lairds could ride roughshod all over the land of the local peasants and constantly remind them who is boss. Farmers and the like I know of hate fox hunting, as the hunt tramples through their fields and the hounds kill their family pets. The modern fox hunters are not landed gentry, contrary to popular belief. Anyone can go on a fox hunt. Most are townie executives and the like having a thrill playing at huntsmen. But shooting perfectly healthy dogs and smearing animal blood all over your face is hardly the apex of civilized society.

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Fox hunting is a much misunderstood thing. Hounds will not be sent down after a fox because, let’s face it, they're slightly too big! The hunt generally kills off the older or weaker foxes, as a healthy fox can easily outrun them. These older and weaker foxes are the ones more likely to kill chickens and the such, as they cannot find food any other way.

With the ban of hunting, the culling of foxes will not stop. Since the population is not controlled by the hunt, more people will start shooting them, which can lead to injuries as a moving target is quite hard to kill cleanly. Also, it will be the healthier foxes that are culled as well.
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Fox hunting is a traditional countryside sport and is the only feasible way of controlling the population of Foxes. Contrary to popular belief, it is a far more humane and fair way of maintaining a healthy population level when you consider that the only other available forms of culling are unnatural and artificial - gassing and shooting.

Oh, and let's be honest about Tony Blair and his puppet-masters. They didn't ban fox-hunting because they are kind and caring people. They banned it because they see the countryside as enemy Tory territory, just like the South-eastern areas of England they are planning to turn into a concrete wilderness. The recent ban was a below-the-belt stab at the countryside and has only put more pressure on the government to continue their reign of stupidity to please a nation of Big-Brother watching, MacDonalds eating slobs.


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I would like to write this definition as a response to others who see Foxhunting as ‘a sport for the landed gentry in the name of nothing'.
Don't be so bloody stupid. Fox hunting is not just a sport, it serves the purpose of controlling the Fox population, and the majority of people who follow the hunt are ordinary working and middle class people. You are merely spouting a load of townie preconceptions that have no basis in fact and are an example of “inverted snobbery”.

And I would also like to mention that the Fox is only ripped to pieces by the hounds AFTER it has been killed by a quick bite to the neck causing a death with the minimum of pain. The images you see from the RSPCA are just corpses, not live foxes. You may find this distasteful, but it can certainly not be described as 'cruel'.

You are also wrong in believing that the Hunt kills a Fox every meet. I'm not sure of the exact figures but I would estimate that the Fox has at least 50% chance of getting away. Fox hunting dates back to Roman times, while general hunting with dogs as far back as the Ancient Egyptians. Small farmers are exactly the people Foxhunting protects, as they are the ones who suffer most when a Fox kills every single Chicken they own, or wipes out their new born lambs.

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Re: OW gives Surtees book to Benny for Christmas

Postby Wellesnet » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:20 am

John Huston Foxhunting in Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ru65DF_qQc


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