Welles and Night Gallery

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Welles and Night Gallery

Postby MartynH » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:18 am

Just got on the Night Gallery site and seen below

'SILENT SNOW, SECRET SNOW. A young boy's fascination with snow draws him into a beautiful fantasy world. Narrated by Orson Welles'

It was a Rod Serling (also did Twilight Zone) series - very good - I used to watch it in the 70's. Has anybody seen this episode?

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Postby Roger Ryan » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:31 pm

Interesting to note that Serling wanted Welles to narrate the TWILIGHT ZONE series (at least the first seaon), but Welles wanted too much money. Serling ended up doing it himself (marvelously). I had not heard that Serling got Welles to narrate a NIGHT GALLERY episode a decade later.

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Postby MartynH » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:40 pm

found the clip on you tube of Silent snow secret snow - there's even a clear ref to Kane. Welles is used quite a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fq3Y_Tc ... re=related

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Postby kipling71 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:37 pm

My GOD that's gorgeous! Hadn't seen this one until now.

Does the show freeze every couple minutes for anyone else? I don't think it's my connection - the counter keeps rolling but image and sound stop for a few seconds at random points.

Still, STUNNING piece of work.
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Postby Glenn Anders » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:36 pm

From comments left on Youtube, it would seem that the periodic glitch is part of the Night Gallery transfer, kipling71.

As you may know, MartynH, when Conrad Aiken was eleven, his physician father, possibly a victim of schizophrenia, murdered his mother and shot himself. Aiken found the bodies, was later raised by others, and there is considerable evidence that "Silent Snow, Secret Snow," published in 1934, was inspired by Aiken's brooding on his family legacy. [In those days, it was thought that mental illness was mainly a matter of heredity.] His poetry, stories and novels are shot through with insights and illustrations of Freudian thought.

He would have been working for the WPA Writers Project at the time "Silent Snow, Secret Snow" was published, and might well have had some contact with Welles who, working in the Theater Wing, would have been an impressionable 19. Both artists would have shared the loss of their mothers, and a history of mental illness in their families.

Orson Welles, of course, saw his mother die within a day or two of his Ninth Birthday, and it has been occasionally suggested that he held his Father, Dick Welles, in some way accountable for her death. He also had an older brother, Richard Ives Welles, also 19 when their Mother died, who was institutionalized for much of his life. He seems to have been a secret hardship and responsibility for Welles, who supported his brother modestly until the older man's death.

It has been so long since I've read "Silent Snow, Secret Snow that I don't remember if a "Rosebud-type" globe figures in Aiken's original story or not. But it is possible that these other factors helped draw Welles to Rod Serling's Night Gallery adaptation.

Thank you for turning this video up for us, MartynH, and welcome to Wellesnet.

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Postby Roger Ryan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:07 am

Yes, the picture-freeze glitch happened for me as well - quite frustrating!

Unlike some blatant references to KANE (I'm thinking of asides included in Hickenlooper's BIG BRASS RING), the snowglobe in this NIGHT GALLERY episode is a perfect metaphor for the subject matter and it wouldn't surprise me if it was in place prior to Welles being hired. Despite the 70s TV look (all of the NIGHT GALLERY episodes suffered from this whereas TWILIGHT ZONE often had the look of theatrical films), this is excellent work and features one of the finer Welles narrations.

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Postby atcolomb » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:15 pm

Night Gallery season 2 has been released with the episode Silent Snow Secret Snow narrated by Orson. I will put in in my Netflix queue!!

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Re: Welles and Night Gallery

Postby katewatson » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:19 am

Hey friend, Thanks for that nice information. Hadn't seen this one until now. Just seen its trailer of 2 minutes on youtube and seems really interesting show so i just want to ask "Does this show available online?"

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Re: Welles and Night Gallery

Postby RayKelly » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:35 am

Hi Kate,
You can watchthe episode online at hulu.com
Here is the direct link >>> http://www.hulu.com/watch/58804/night-gallery-the-phantom-farmhousesilent-snow-secret-snow
It starts at the 34-minute mark

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Re: Welles and Night Gallery

Postby Wellesnet » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:14 pm

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Citizen Kane Roundup - Rod Serling's Night Gallery by Harvey Chartrand

Just picked up Rod Serling’s Night Gallery on DVD and was surprised to see so many of Orson Welles’ colleagues in these well crafted supernatural/sci-fi/horror stories. Welles even narrated a 1971 episode entitled Silent Snow, Secret Snow. Here is a list of Mercury Theatre veterans or Welles co-stars who made guest appearances or otherwise contributed to Night Gallery (1969-1973).

Roddy McDowall (Macbeth) and George Macready (Follow the Boys): Night Gallery TV-movie pilot (1969)
Jeannette Nolan (Macbeth): The Housekeeper (1970)
Burgess Meredith (Prince Hal in Welles’ Five Kings; Green Grow The Lilacs, Mutiny On The Bounty, Chicken Wagon Family, State Fair episodes of The Campbell Playhouse): The Little Black Bag (1970)
Joanna Pettet (Casino Royale): The House (1970)
Agnes Moorehead (The War of the Worlds, Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons; Rebecca, I Lost My Girlish Laughter, Wickford Point, Count Of Monte Cristo, Liliom episodes of The Campbell Playhouse): Certain Shadows on the Wall (1970)
Torin Thatcher (The Black Rose): Lone Survivor (1971)
John Astin (Get to Know Your Rabbit): Pamela's Voice (1971)
E.G. Marshall (Compulsion): A Death in the Family (1971)
Jeanette Nolan: Since Aunt Ada Came to Stay (1971)
Vincent Price (The Shoemaker’s Holiday, Heartbreak House): Class of '99 (1971)
Patrick O’Neal (The Kremlin Letter): A Fear of Spiders (1971)
John Astin: Hell's Bells (1971)
Gale Sondergaard (Follow the Boys): The Dark Boy (1971)
Arthur O’Connell (Citizen Kane): The Painted Mirror (1971)
Susan Strasberg (The Other Side of the Wind): Midnight Never Ends (1971)
Alan Napier (Macbeth): House - with Ghost (1971)
Forrest Tucker (Trouble in the Glen): Dr. Stringfellow's Rejuvenator (1971)
Joanna Pettet: Keep in Touch - We'll Think of Something (1971)
Arte Johnson (Vienna): The Flip-Side of Satan (1971)
Bradford Dillman (Compulsion): Pickman's Model (1971)
Edward G. Robinson (The Stranger): The Messiah on Mott Street (1971)
Zsa Zsa Gabor (Touch of Evil): The Painted Mirror (1971)
Patrick Macnee (Great Mysteries, ep. A Time to Remember): Logoda's Heads (1971)
Cameron Mitchell (The Other Side of the Wind): Green Fingers (1972)
Harry Guardino (King of Kings): The Miracle at Camafeo (1972)
Michael Dunn (The Last Roman) and Alan Napier: The Sins of the Fathers (1972)
Stuart Whitman (Butterfly): Lindemann's Catch (1972)
Norman Lloyd (Julius Caesar): A Feast of Blood (1972)
Ian Wolfe (Tomorrow Is Forever): Deliveries in the Rear (1972)
Royal Dano (Moby Dick): I'll Never Leave You – Ever (1972)
Joanna Pettet and Laurence Harvey (The Deep, F for Fake): The Caterpillar (1972)
Vincent Price: The Return of the Sorcerer (1972)
Joanna Pettet and John Astin: The Girl with the Hungry Eyes (1972)
Stuart Whitman and Alan Napier: Fright Night (1972)
Burgess Meredith and Cameron Mitchell: Finnegan's Flight (1972)
Dean Stockwell (Compulsion): Whisper (1973)
Susan Strasberg: The Doll of Death (1973)


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