did Edward D. Wood, Jr. met Welles?

[Jarpie]

Hi, i am new in forum and i ask something rightaway.

I watched Tim Burtons excellent Ed Wood couple weeks ago and i've been wondering is meeting between Ed Wood and Orson Welles based on fact or is it pure fiction?

[Flint]

Jarpie-
I suppose he could have met OW, but as I understand it, the scene in question is a fabrication to highlight the theme of the film which poses the question, "If a filmmaker had the gumption, charisma and wherewithall of Orson Welles but no talent, what would he be like?"

On the other hand, I could be totally wrong.

-Flint

[Flint]

Me-
I think I'm over simplifying. The point of the film is whether or not an artist has validity even if he is a "bad artist".

-Flint

[HarryLime]

As I understand Burton's films yet, I personnally think that Burton is a real plastic artist and that he choose the movies he do in fonction of the visual aspect of it... "Ed Wood" is quite unique in Burton filmo and I don't really want to see "metaphysical" side on it; it destroy my pleasure to see it...
I think that sometime, too many peoples try to see "the movie behind" each movies and waste the pleasure of seeing movies. Of course, when you watch a movie by Antonioni or Bergman, you can play that question game... But when I watch a movie by peoples like Burton, or even Orson, I just sit and enjoy the movie for what I see "on screen"...
That remind me a funny scene in a documentary about Woody Allen I saw on TV where a critic explain to Woody what he saw in the movie "The purple rose of Cairo"... Woody finally got really mad and told him "Please, stop... I wrote and direct that movie, don't explain it to me!!!"...
Just my little opinion with my bad English
Stéphane Normandin

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actually, harry lime, welles' films are so incredibly layered with meaning that whole books can be written on any one film, more so than bergman, and antonioni.

welles made it into the film, ed wood, because wood, and burton - was/is - a huge welles fan. you can see welles touches all over burton's films. most notably in batman 1, the stranger-like ending.

also, ed wood got to rub shoulders with the uppercrust when he was able to hire a welles camera man, and make up artist on 2 of his films.

there is no justice in hollywood, working with welles, 18 years later ending up in the employ of ed wood. it's frightening.

[Glenn Anders]

Interesting, Blunted. Who was the cameraman?

Glenn

[Oscar Christie]

Mr. Blunt;

What did you think of Vincent D'Onofrio's voiceover of Welles?
If you need any more for your Ambersons restoration, I think he's your man.

I always liked the fact that the scene (in Musso & Frank's) has the only two writer/director/producer/actors at that time;
and that one directed the film voted the best of all time and the other directed the film voted the worst.

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sorry, glenn, i was dipping into my elixir again. wood didn't get a welles camera man - THEY SAVED HITLER'S BRAIN got a welles camera man, cortez. cortez was joined on the set of HITLER'S BRAIN, by ambersons, kane, touch of evil make-up man, MAURICE seiderman, who was ed's makeup man on BRIDE OF THE MONSTER.

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oscar, i'm not sure about this but i think i read somewhere that Vincent D'Onofrio couldn't hook welles' voice and some one else did it. i think that was in ed wood where some one needed to dub the actor playing welles.

i thought the whole welles idea in ed wood was great. d'onofrio was real good as welles. they also had a very good screenplay to work from. i read it a long time ago and only remember one scene written but not filmed, and can't remember if the welles meet was in the screenplay. will have to check.

musso and frank's was welles' favorite steak place. it was in ed wood, and flashed by in the german version of ONE MAN BAND.

all this ed wood talk, i now feel like watching it again.

[Johnny Dale]

Blunted,
According to the Director of Special Effects, the voice was D'nofrio

[Glenn Anders]

Thanks, Blunted, for the clarification.

Glenn

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i would say the special effects editor in ed wood knows what he's talking about.

could it of had been in CRADDLE WILL ROCK?

[marcoshark]

I quote from the internet Movie Database:

"The voice of Orson Welles was dubbed by Vincent D'Onofrio and Maurice LaMarche which was combined digitally on a computer."

As you guys probably know, Maurice LaMarche is the voice of "The Brain" as in "Pinky and the Brain".

What I love about that whole scene is that the Welles character doesn't even look twice at the way Eddie is dressed.

Marco

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thanks, macro, i was sure i had read that about ed wood.