how much Welles in Jane Eyre?

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Postby catbuglah » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:17 pm

Ellis and Kaplan's "yearning, passive" Jane is further complicated in my final example, a series of shots late in the film (figures 8-11). Here Jane leaves Rochester. She is devastated by their interrupted nuptials and the discovery of Rochester's mad wife, Bertha Mason. She still loves Rochester, :p though she will no longer live with him. :( Yet at the very moment in which the film might have emphasized her melodramatic position as wounded lover, the very Wellesian mise en scene instead reasserts her power within the narrative and her power over it. In figure 8, the departing Jane has grown much larger than the bereft Rochester. In figure 9, Jane begins to open the door, and Rochester is Lilliputian in comparison to her; he has shrunk almost to the size of a thought in her mind, a regret in her heart. In figure 10, Jane has opened the door wide enough to walk out, and in the process she has eclipsed Rochester altogether, excluding him from the frame, a striking visual demonstration of authorial control implied by her position in the frame. The Rochester she leaves behind (Figure 11) seems both devastated and powerless. Here again, the mise en scene suggests not only her power within this narrative but her power over this narrative, indeed her own complex homo-and heterodiegetic relationship to this narrative.


This begins at 1h24m28s - One could compare it the scene where Susan leaves Kane - they're fairly similar when you consider they are filmed at opposite 180 degree angles. Both feature a plane level, central screen receding/advancing figure with emphasis on doors and doorways.
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Postby catbuglah » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:35 pm

So what's the deal with Jane Eyre? ??? I'd say say the maestro deserves co-directorship - but the degree of Welles' autership is of course always a tricky subject - so I don't know - I feel there's certainly enough interesting clues to warrant an in-depth study, if that hasn't already been done. One would need to review Welles' 40's films, plus maybe Rebecca and that Dali movie as well as the various Jane Eyre's on radio and a shot-by-shot analysis of Jane (To me, there's a goldmine of Wellesian film rhetoric therein- so I've just been boppin' and scattin' :cool: - noticing stuff on the fly - so my ad hoc opinion at this point would be to assume that the Maestro directed (directly or indirectly) about half of the shots (with good, gothic-style :angry: material thanks to Stevenson and Barnes comprising the other half) plus the rhythm of the film is quite bouncy and musical and despite the rather sandwiched plot strands, the scenes themselves somewhow flow together well, so Welles seems to have had (direct or indirect) participatio in the cutting. Although essentially a Selznick Rebecca-gothic romance, there are certain Wellesified thematics that slip in (childhood of Jane, role of Rochester). So although the movie doesn't have the kinetic electricity of a pure Welles auteur project, the Maestro seems to have, for whatever reasons, had enough interest in this project to want to put considerable personal input into it to make it ultimately bear his esthetic stamp. But I'm just boppin' and scattin' :cool: here.
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Postby catbuglah » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:00 am

Ham Actor

During a scene in Jane Eyre in which Orson Welles was to be burned to death, he hollered to his co-star Joan Fontaine, "I now know what Joan of Arc endured!"
"Keep your spirits up," she called back. "We'll let you know if we smell burning ham!"

[Fontaine was hardly one to talk: During her dancing scene at the premiere of the musical comedy A Damsel in Distress in 1937, a woman sitting behind her loudly exclaimed, "Isn't she awful!"]

[Trivia: Among Fontaine's non-thespian incarnations: licensed pilot, champion ballonist, expert rider, prize-winning tuna fisherman, hole-in-one golfer, Cordon Bleu chef and licensed interior decorator.]


Fontaine [born De Beauvoir De Havilland], Joan (1917- ) Japanese-born American actress [noted for her roles in various films]

[Sources: Carol Amende, If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say... Come Sit Next to Me]

:p :laugh: :D
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Postby Wellesnet » Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:50 am

"Jane Eyre", with Joan Fontaine as Jane and Orson Welles as Rochester, opened in UK theaters 75 years ago today. It's US premiere was a few weeks later.
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Postby tonyw » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:31 pm

Yes, while Joan evokes "I" from Daph's novel REBECCA, Orson has more than a touch of the future Franz Kindler in this scene. As Keith Baxter once said, you can never separate Orson from the Gothic and the bolt of lightning that concludes this extracts ascribes demonic power to someone who appears to have stepped out of the pages of Horace Walpole and Mrs. Radcliffe!


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