The Lilly Campbells are seriously spoiling me regarding how superb early radio could sound, but I also believe it's a miracle that so many live broadcasts were recorded and survived at all, so I'm thankful for even the shit-quality files; I just try to fix them to what small extent I can.
The Radio Spirits stuff does sound overprocessed to me too: too much Noise Reduction for my taste (though I still enjoy their shows with no problem.)
This claims that several other Shadow episodes have survived as well, though I learned to mistrust everything I read on the Internet decades ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_T ... %80%931938)
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I'm using THE WAR OF THE WORLDS and DRACULA for my Fall Fantasy in Literature and Film classes as I did last semester. They are really welcome.
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I don't know why I didn't think to look before, but This Is Orson Welles lists many a Welles-authored script. I flagged the originals, everything else is an adaption.
1936
The Columbia Workshop - Hamlet
1937
The Columbia Workshop - Macbeth
Les Miserables
1938
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Dracula (with John Houseman)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Treasure Island (with John Houseman)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Man Who Was Thursday
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Oliver Twist
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Heart of Darkness (with Howard Koch)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Pickwick Papers
1939
The Campbell Playhouse - Things We Have (with others) [original script]
The Campbell Playhouse - The Green Goddess
The Campbell Playhouse - Algiers
The Campbell Playhouse - The Magnificent Ambersons
1941
The Free Company - His Honor, the Mayor [original script]
1942
Cavalcade of America - Admiral of the Ocean Sea (with Robert Meltzer and Norris Houghton)
Ceiling Unlimited - The Navigator (with Milton Geiger) [original script]
Ceiling Unlimited - Wind, Sand and Stars
Hello Americans - The Alphabet: Slavery (Abednego) to End of Alphabet (with John Tucker Battle) [original script]
1944
Fifth War Loan Drive - Texarkana [original script]
Philco Hall of Fame - The Happy Prince
1945
This Is My Best - The Heart of Darkness
Orson Welles Commentaries - [original scripts]
1946
The Mercury Summer Theatre of the Air - Around the World in 80 Days
The Mercury Summer Theatre of the Air - Abednego the Slave (with John Tucker Battle) [original script]
1951
The Lives of Harry Lime - Too Many Crooks [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - A Ticket to Tangier [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Two Is Company [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Operation Music Box [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - The Golden Fleece [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - The Dead Candidate [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Man of Mystery [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - It's in the Bag [original script]
Interesting that he took a proprietorial view to the Dickens adaptions in 1938. His originals seems to progress from patriotism, through politics, to finally arrive at pulp fiction. I need to re-listen to the Harry Limes, with an ear to things Wellesian.
I don't know why I didn't think to look before, but This Is Orson Welles lists many a Welles-authored script. I flagged the originals, everything else is an adaption.
1936
The Columbia Workshop - Hamlet
1937
The Columbia Workshop - Macbeth
Les Miserables
1938
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Dracula (with John Houseman)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Treasure Island (with John Houseman)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Man Who Was Thursday
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - Oliver Twist
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Heart of Darkness (with Howard Koch)
The Mercury Theatre on the Air - The Pickwick Papers
1939
The Campbell Playhouse - Things We Have (with others) [original script]
The Campbell Playhouse - The Green Goddess
The Campbell Playhouse - Algiers
The Campbell Playhouse - The Magnificent Ambersons
1941
The Free Company - His Honor, the Mayor [original script]
1942
Cavalcade of America - Admiral of the Ocean Sea (with Robert Meltzer and Norris Houghton)
Ceiling Unlimited - The Navigator (with Milton Geiger) [original script]
Ceiling Unlimited - Wind, Sand and Stars
Hello Americans - The Alphabet: Slavery (Abednego) to End of Alphabet (with John Tucker Battle) [original script]
1944
Fifth War Loan Drive - Texarkana [original script]
Philco Hall of Fame - The Happy Prince
1945
This Is My Best - The Heart of Darkness
Orson Welles Commentaries - [original scripts]
1946
The Mercury Summer Theatre of the Air - Around the World in 80 Days
The Mercury Summer Theatre of the Air - Abednego the Slave (with John Tucker Battle) [original script]
1951
The Lives of Harry Lime - Too Many Crooks [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - A Ticket to Tangier [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Two Is Company [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Operation Music Box [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - The Golden Fleece [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - The Dead Candidate [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - Man of Mystery [original script]
The Lives of Harry Lime - It's in the Bag [original script]
Interesting that he took a proprietorial view to the Dickens adaptions in 1938. His originals seems to progress from patriotism, through politics, to finally arrive at pulp fiction. I need to re-listen to the Harry Limes, with an ear to things Wellesian.
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Thanks Terry, good idea. Made me think there should be a thread on Welles's original stories in all other media as well:
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Terry wrote:Re: Quadruple Threat
I don't know why I didn't think to look before, but This Is Orson Welles lists many a Welles-authored script.
Terry, with no dissing meant to Our Man Orson...
Doesn't anecdotal evidence suggest that much of that Mercury-era stuff may have been to greater and lesser degrees collaborational, yet date from the era when the "One Man Band" p.r. was in effect?
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True, Craig, but Houseman has even said that THE MAN WHO WAS THURSDAY was Welles's script entirely. I suspect Welles did the JULIUS CEASAR adaptation by himself as well.
If Welles did OLIVER TWIST by himself then that's all the more reason to lament that show's missing status.
If Welles did OLIVER TWIST by himself then that's all the more reason to lament that show's missing status.
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I expanded the Addendum collection to included Lilly's 'hidden' files, a few quality upgrades, and other of Welles' radio appearances I felt pertinent. Those files marked 'patched' are the incomplete Lilly episodes for which I was able to paste in the missing bits or disc sides. Overall the quality is variable. If you have any upgrades, please let me know.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1be9jo ... n+addendum
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Odd. Three shows got restricted by Mediafire due to copyright claims: The War of the Worlds, the east coast performance of Christmas Carol (but not the west coast show,) and The Marvelous Barastro. Mediafire gives zero info on who these belong to or what to do about it, it just blocks them, so I just dumped them in the trash bin as I honestly don't give a shit. Who owns War of the Worlds these days and why?
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Ha, in perusing various uploads of WOTW to Youtube, Google's algorithm has matched the 1938 broadcast to (at least) the following:
Song: No Matter (TripleXL Remix)
Artist: Bum Rush
Album: No Matter
Licensed to YouTube by dig dis (on behalf of Fun Sounds)
Song: Dries
Artist: Hoover
Album: The Lurid Traversal of Route 7
Licensed to YouTube by DischordRecords (on behalf of Dischord Records)
Song: Shvaratri, Astro-D, Oberon - War of the Worlds-2406
Artist: Shvaratri, Astro
Album: ovniep071 - Astro - D & Friends - Seperate Reality
Licensed to YouTube by AdRev for Rights Holder (on behalf of Geomagnetic Records); AdRev Publishing, and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: The End
Artist: Terrible Spaceship
Album: Invaders: 1938
Licensed to YouTube by TuneCore (on behalf of Terrible Spaceship); TuneCore Publishing, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc., and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: All Suspects Are Innocent Until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law
Artist: Aerial
Album: The Legion of Dynamic Dischord
Licensed to YouTube by The Orchard Music (on behalf of Nomethod Records); AMRA, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc., Kobalt Music Publishing, ASCAP, and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: NoName003
Artist: Lrnzzo
Album: Lrnzzo
Licensed to YouTube by Proton LLC (on behalf of Vedana Records); Proton LLC (Music Publishing)
Do any of these sample WOTW, and by being copyrighted works themselves then also copyright the sample they use?
Bollocks.
Edit:
Ha, in perusing various uploads of WOTW to Youtube, Google's algorithm has matched the 1938 broadcast to (at least) the following:
Song: No Matter (TripleXL Remix)
Artist: Bum Rush
Album: No Matter
Licensed to YouTube by dig dis (on behalf of Fun Sounds)
Song: Dries
Artist: Hoover
Album: The Lurid Traversal of Route 7
Licensed to YouTube by DischordRecords (on behalf of Dischord Records)
Song: Shvaratri, Astro-D, Oberon - War of the Worlds-2406
Artist: Shvaratri, Astro
Album: ovniep071 - Astro - D & Friends - Seperate Reality
Licensed to YouTube by AdRev for Rights Holder (on behalf of Geomagnetic Records); AdRev Publishing, and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: The End
Artist: Terrible Spaceship
Album: Invaders: 1938
Licensed to YouTube by TuneCore (on behalf of Terrible Spaceship); TuneCore Publishing, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc., and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: All Suspects Are Innocent Until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law
Artist: Aerial
Album: The Legion of Dynamic Dischord
Licensed to YouTube by The Orchard Music (on behalf of Nomethod Records); AMRA, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc., Kobalt Music Publishing, ASCAP, and 2 Music Rights Societies
Song: NoName003
Artist: Lrnzzo
Album: Lrnzzo
Licensed to YouTube by Proton LLC (on behalf of Vedana Records); Proton LLC (Music Publishing)
Do any of these sample WOTW, and by being copyrighted works themselves then also copyright the sample they use?
Bollocks.
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Doesn't the Koch Estate still own - or at least, claim to own - WOTW?
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Wich2 wrote:Doesn't the Koch Estate still own - or at least, claim to own - WOTW?
I believe the Koch Estate has copyrighted the script, not the actual broadcast
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Wellesnet wrote:Wich2 wrote:Doesn't the Koch Estate still own - or at least, claim to own - WOTW?
I believe the Koch Estate has copyrighted the script, not the actual broadcast
Understood, that that's their linchpin.
Doesn't Radio Spirits still hold the "licensed" releases of the recording - and by the way of the Koch imprimatur?
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I figured there was some reason the Seth Winner and Sammy Jones restoration was never released. The little they played of it at AES New York 2018 sounded fantastic. A literal shame no one gets to hear it.
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Terry, I've followed up on that with Sammy several times...
I think looking for a release partner has been an issue? And I'm not sure the job is totally finished?
With you, I would sure like this "Ultimate Edition" to come to pass!
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I think looking for a release partner has been an issue? And I'm not sure the job is totally finished?
With you, I would sure like this "Ultimate Edition" to come to pass!
- Craig
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