Welles & Walt

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Welles & Walt

Postby NoFake » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:27 pm

At one point a few years ago (I came across it in the course of research on another topic) Christopher, discussing Welles’s ill-fated Latin America “goodwill tour,” posted the following comment. Reading it, I realized that I had serendipitously but at the time unknowingly responded to its final sentence a couple of months ago, in my post on Walt [Disney] & El Grupo.

Here’s what Christopher wrote (my bold italics for highlight purposes):

I appreciated the background details you provided a number of posts ago when the subject of why Welles went to Brazil was under discussion. The patriotic fever that existed at the time, and which you described so well, helped me understand even more why Welles accepted the government's offer. I can only add that if Welles made a mistake, Rockefeller made an even bigger one. If the government wanted a feel-good-about-Brazil documentary, they should have hired Walt Disney.

As I discovered, the government did exactly that: http://waltandelgrupo.com/ — to their mutual benefit. Also intended as “an offering of Inter-American friendship,” Saludos Amigos would instead show South America the way the studios -- and we can assume the government -- wanted North America to see it.

Now that I’m putting the two together, I’m wondering whether Christopher has seen this film and if so, whether she can comment on it and Disney’s “South American Trip” in the context of Welles’s, the politics of both the era and the studios, the almost mirror-image impact these similar assignments had on the two directors’ careers — and anything else she might like to add.

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Re: Welles & Walt

Postby Alan Brody » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:53 am

How do you know "Christopher" is a she? Because Keats says so?

Saludos Amigos would instead show South America the way the studios -- and we can assume the government -- wanted North America to see it.

True...as an ethnic cartoon.

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Re: Welles & Walt

Postby ToddBaesen » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:42 am

I saw Walt and El Groupo at the Disney Family Museum in San Francisco, and I don't believe it will be seen very widely outside a few limited engagements in Disney friendly cities before going straight to DVD.

Sadly, I thought the movie was quite awful, which is too bad because you would think a movie about Walt Disney and his artists in Rio, Buenos Aires and Chile would be far more interesting.

One problem may be that since it was made for the "Disney" museum all the politics of the time are downplayed, and the fact that Disney was going on this trip while his studio was being shut down by a labor strike is covered in only about five minutes.

The Disney Museum, which is quite fabulous as both a movie museum and as as an overview of Disney's career, gives a much greater insight into Disney's feeling about the strike that occurred when he went to South America. There is a whole section in the museum devoted the trip to South America and the strike. They even have recordings of Disney's testimony before the House Un-American activities committee!

Of course, the big difference between Disney and Orson Welles was that Disney owned his own studio. Welles was merely an "employee" of RKO, so when he went to South America he was subject to recall and eventually, he was fired.

Disney, could leave his studio while it was being struck and come back and start new projects, because "he owned the store."
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Re: Welles & Walt

Postby Alan Brody » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:47 am

The Disney Museum, which is quite fabulous as both a movie museum and as as an overview of Disney's career, gives a much greater insight into Disney's feeling about the strike that occurred when he went to South America. There is a whole section in the museum devoted the trip to South America and the strike. They even have recordings of Disney's testimony before the House Un-American activities committee!

Ah, sounds good, but does The Disney Museum also have info about Walt's career as an FBI informant? It's been awhile since I've read it, but I remember there being a lot of good stuff on that, the South American venture, HUAC and the Labor strike in a fascinating book by Marc Eliot called Walt Disney - Hollywood's Dark Prince. Judging from some of the Amazon reviews, it's a book that inspired a lot of resentment on the part of many Disney admirers. Let's just say you're not likely to find it being sold at Disney World.

http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Disney-Holly ... 522&sr=8-1


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