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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Le Chiffre » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:47 am

From Orson Welles's "The Smiler With the Knife" screenplay:
John: The American public will never stand for a dictator.

Strangeways: You mean they'll never give a politician that much power. How about a hero? We like heroes over here and this one won't talk like a dictator. He'll look like a movie star and everybody'll love him.

How about a reality show star instead?

"Trump and Sanders Give Voice to the Voiceless":
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ls/463206/
Whites without a college degree, who began realigning away from the Democratic Party in the 1960s (because of the Civil Rights act?), are arguably now the GOP’s most important constituency. In every presidential election since 1996, they have provided 49 to 55 percent of the votes won by the GOP presidential nominee—even though non-college whites over that period have shrunk from about half of all voters to only about one-third. They played equally crucial roles in the 2008 and 2012 Republican presidential primaries, casting about half the votes.

Yet no GOP presidential contender more formidable than the conservative commentator Patrick J. Buchanan in 1996 or former Senator Rick Santorum in 2012, neither of whom came close to winning, has aimed his agenda squarely at those voters. In style and substance, John McCain and Mitt Romney, the 2008 and 2012 nominees, more represented the party’s managerial white-collar wing. Trump has decisively broken that pattern with a bristling, insular message that attacks both domestic elites and foreign influences, from Mexican immigrants to Chinese manufacturers.

The GOP’s blue-collar and white-collar factions agree on many issues. But polls show that working-class Republicans are both more nativist and statist: They are more likely to support temporarily banning Muslims from entering the U.S. and deporting all undocumented immigrants, and more hostile to free trade or cuts in federal entitlement programs for the elderly
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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a longtime leader in the conservative political movement, tweeted Friday that the GOP establishment should see that it is inevitable that Donald Trump will be the party's presidential nominee.

The New Republic on how "The Southern Strategy Made Donald Trump Possible":
https://newrepublic.com/article/130039/ ... p-possible
Patrick Ruffini, webmaster for the Bush/Cheney presidential run in 2004, encapsulated the establishment view earlier this week, calling Trump a “cancer” on the GOP and adding, “All of Trump’s actions are straight from the radicalization playbook. I don’t think it’s a stretch to compare his tactics to jihadists.”

But far from being a “cancer” on Republicanism, or some jihadi-style radicalizer, he’s the natural evolutionary product of Republican platforms and strategies that stretch back to the very origins of modern conservatism in the 1950s and 1960s. The single most salient difference between Trump’s supporters and those of his rivals: They are much more likely to endorse white ethnic nationalism and to express nostalgia for traditional Southern racism. In light of this polling, Trump’s campaign can best be understood not as an outlier but as the latest manifestation of the Southern Strategy, which the Republican Party has deployed for a half-century to shore up its support in the old Confederate states by appeals to racial resentment and white solidarity.

The Southern Strategy has long relied on coded appeals to racism—an emphasis on “law and order,” denunciations of racial quotas, and so on—that enticed the bigoted base while still giving the Republican Party plausible deniability. This sort of winking racism no longer works, in part because the base feels the party hasn’t delivered. Trump’s signature trait is that he doesn’t hide his bigotry, so he excites voters who feel that here, at last, they have the real thing.

Glenn Beck: "“The Trump supporters, they’re Brownshirts,” Beck said. “I’ve never witnessed anything like I saw today, it was just, it was grotesque and sad that Americans… It’s like these people are treating people like Obama supporters treated us...It was like walking into Ferguson or walking into Baltimore. There’s no reason, there’s no common decency, there’s nothing. It’s just bizarre.”'

Noam Chomsky:
MIT professor and intellectual Noam Chomsky attributes Donald Trump’s success in the Republican presidential primary to “fear” and a “breakdown of society.”

“Fear, along with the breakdown of society during the neoliberal period,” Chomsky responded. “People feel isolated, helpless, victim of powerful forces that they do not understand and cannot influence.”

Chomsky compared the political environment that’s allowed Trump to flourish to the 1930s, when the U.S. was in the Great Depression. “Objectively, poverty and suffering were far greater,” Chomsky said. “But even among poor working people and the unemployed, there was a sense of hope that is lacking now, in large part because of the growth of a militant labor movement and also the existence of political organizations outside the mainstream.”


"Neoliberalism As a Water Balloon" (2009), uses a balloon model to cleverly illustrate how Neoliberalism is essentially an attack on the social programs and safety net that keeps people from poverty:
http://africasacountry.com/2009/10/neoliberalism/

Understanding Neoconservatism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CFT88cMlQo
"Another important influence on the neoconservative movement of the 90's, was international Trotskyism. In the framework of international communism, the Trotskyites were rabid, idealistic internationalists, rather than realists or nationalists. The two Bush presidents were the neoconservative leaders, who favored support for the United Nations, preemptive war, and complex international treaties and organizations.

'A Neoconservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality." - Irving Kristol

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wich2 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:18 pm

>Only when analysts realize that we now have a three-universe political environment — traditional centrist deal-makers, populist conservative nationalists, and culturally radical socialists — will they begin to understand the dynamic we are living through.<

A cursory look at Newtie's life shows an often egocentric windbag, much like a current candidate... but he's not stupid. And here, I think he's on to something. But he doesn't take it to its logical conclusion:

What happens to most systems, when the center no longer holds?

THIS is what the fire-breathers on both sides are forgetting - to the peril of all of us.


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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Le Chiffre » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:32 am

Interesting point, Craig. As Lincoln once said, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

Here's what Gore Vidal said some twenty years ago about the center of American politics (from "The American Presidency). I guess we'll find out later this year if his ideas are still relevant:
The word “liberal” has been totally demonized, while conservative (the condition of most income-challenged Americans) is being tarnished by godly pressure groups, whose symbols are the fetus and the flag. As a result, today’s presidential candidates are rushing towards a meaningless place called “the center”, and he who can get to the center of the center, the “dead center” as it were, will have a four-year lease on (the White House).

Paradoxically, he will have almost no power within the country. Economic affairs are decided by the corporate ownership of the country, and their Congress. But in foreign affairs he is preeminent. Since 1800, our presidents have kept us perpetually on the move, and more often then not, at war. So today we are the masters of the earth, with military bases in every corner of the world. Unfortunately, there is now no more money to pay for them, and no evil empire to confront.


But then, as GV indicated in this interview a few years later...
http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Vid ... cript.html
...the "Evil Empire" was replaced by the "Enemy of the Month Club" (currently Isis):
(The American people) allowed an election to be stolen in November 2000. They made no fuss. We have perpetual war for perpetual peace. We have the Enemy-of-the-Month Club: one month it's Noriega, one month it's Saddam Hussein, one month it's Gaddafy, currently it's Osama bin Laden.

"It's going to be a loooooong war!" said George W. Bush, with such glee, 'cause it means he has Imperial powers. And it also means that we are not going to get the Constitution back. Once civil rights are gone, they are gone. People get out of the habit of them.

There is no peace party in the United States, a party that might say stop spending all this money on pointless wars, particularly in the Middle East and with the Moslem world...Americans say, "What? How could we be hated? We're the good guys. Everybody else, they're evil-doers." And when I heard the baby-talk coming out of George W. Bush's mouth in front of Congress, there's this Axis of Evil, Iran, Iraq and ... North Korea? I mean, he doesn't even know where these places are...I've never seen Americans so supine.


We Should Have Seen Trump Coming:
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35662836
We should say what we mean by the Republican Party establishment, a term regularly bandied around but rarely explained. Fifty years ago, it was easier to identify.

It was an eastern establishment dominated by Wall Street bankers and corporate executives, who were strongly pro-business, ideologically moderate and politically pragmatic.

Nelson Rockefeller, the scion of the banking dynasty and Governor of New York - who lived, like Donald Trump, in great splendour on Fifth Avenue - was their figurehead.

These days, however, the Republican establishment is harder to define and more diffuse, which also explains why it is easier to topple
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Gore Vidal: "Our Only Political Party Has Two Right Wings, One Called Republican, The Other Democrat":
http://dailybail.com/home/gore-vidal-ou ... s-one.html
We are under the control of a global banking dictatorship today, and have been for years. How else can one explain such wealth destruction...

The difference is, today's dictators hide in the shadows, behind all manner of straw dogs and front men, patsy's and political pawns. They've learned quite well that when there is no evil figurehead...that there is no one man or group to point the finger at, just mass confusion and frustration.

The intellectual elite and world bankers have been running the show for many years before it became apparent to most of us in 2008, and some of us still don't see it today. Their egos betray them when their tongues slip, but otherwise, the economic dictatorship of the technetronic era is much more successful as an anonymous conspiracy theory, only recognized by quacks or extremists.


Together they constitute what we call "the Establishment", but what might as easily be called the "Bank Party": a two-party kleptocracy modeled on third-world dictatorships whose purpose is to use government to seek power, status, and personal gain at the expense of the governed.

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Le Chiffre » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:45 pm

Is it my imagination or does almost all of the young political star power these days seem to be on the Republican side? This article, called "Democrats Vanishing Future", was written last May, but still seems apropos:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... re/448821/
If Clinton can't extend the Democrats' presidential winning streak—a fundamental challenge, regardless of the political environment—the party's barren bench will cause even more alarm for the next presidential campaign. And if the Democrats' core constituencies don't show up for midterm elections—an outlook that's rapidly becoming conventional wisdom—Democrats have serious challenges in 2018 as well. It's why The New Yorker's liberal writer John Cassidy warned that a Clinton loss next year could "assign [Republicans] a position of dominance.

Without a future generation of leaders able to compellingly carry the liberal message, there's little guarantee that changing demographics will secure the party's destiny. The irony of the 2016 Senate races is that Democrats are betting on the past, running veteran politicians to win them back the majority—with Clinton at the top of the ticket. If that formula doesn't work, the rebuilding process will be long and arduous.
"


The Kurtz in Trump:
http://loomebooks.blogspot.com/2016/01/ ... trump.html
Parallels were drawn between Kurtz and latter day dictators: Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and dare we even say Donald Trump? Now no one suggested that Mr. Trump seeks to be a dictator or is capable of the atrocities committed by Kurtz, but it is hard to argue some similarity to Kurtz when you consider the megalomaniac tendencies, charismatic personality, and seeming willingness to use any means necessary to accomplish stated objectives. The point is that we are constantly surrounded by Kurtz's in our modern society.


The Manson in Trump:
http://gfycat.com/AdolescentEvergreenElephantbeetle

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Meanwhile, another gem from "Bad Lip Reading", this one on Ted Cruz:
http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/t ... ing-030216

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Le Chiffre » Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:34 pm

GOP civil war?
Newt: Wake up Republicans! It's Either Trump or Hillary:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/0 ... or-Clinton

Jeb Bush to Meet With 3 Candidates — but Not Donald Trump — Before Florida Primary:
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... mary/?_r=0

Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida who ended his presidential bid after a string of disappointing finishes, is planning to meet with three of the remaining Republican candidates while they’re in Miami for the Republican debate on Thursday night.

Mr. Bush has plans to meet with Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, Gov. John Kasich of Ohio and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, an aide to Mr. Bush confirmed. The list’s glaring omission, of course, was Donald J. Trump.

As a candidate, Mr. Bush made taking on Mr. Trump, forcefully and repeatedly, a hallmark of his campaign, criticizing him for disparaging women, Hispanics and the disabled, and warning that he was insufficiently serious to be commander-in-chief.

Mr. Trump, meanwhile, always seemed to hold Mr. Bush, and his dynastic family, in poor regard, attacking him from almost the first moment he entered the race. It was Mr. Trump’s two-word insult — dubbing Mr. Bush “low-energy” — that helped devastate Mr. Bush’s campaign, as voters parroted back the phrase and Mr. Bush, who in fact routinely held several free-wheeling events every day, was never able to fully shake the moniker.


So now all the RINOs are ganging up on Trump. They know that if Trump gets in, their fat tax-break days are over and they will have to pay up for a change. They are dying trying to hold on to the Golden Goose.

Trump isn't going to do a thing to the wealthy. Right, he'll fight to raise his own taxes, which are so extensive they can't be released? Ha! The GOP does not want Trump because he is dangerous and a racist jerk, he has no policies, he will drive this country to a total destruction and racial wars and disparities, corrupted cops will start killing more openly under Trump’s presidency, and the war on free trade will also collapse the economy.


Too late, Obama already did all that.

Obama had to pick up the shambles left by George W. and Halliburton Dick Cheney with their no-bid fat contracts given to Cheney's Halliburton buddies. Obama has not started another phony war like the Bush twins.
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With all his bluster and his wins, one thing has become quite clear. Trump's supporters represent a mere 17% of the entire voting public. Trump will never win the presidency but has destroyed the Republican Party and may cause the Senate & the House to be handed over to the democrats.

You sound mighty worried with your made up numbers.
Trump is like a steam roller and he will roll over the establishment RINOS and then Sanders, since Hillary will be under criminal indictment with no more time to campaign. That 17% fits Hillary more than Trump.


The GOP’s meltdown to juvenile delinquency continues.

Let the meltdown continue.

The brain trust meets to stop Trump. This is their last chance. The establishment is like Nero.....fiddles while Washington burns. What will the establishment do?...Nothing.

Does not matter what the establishment tries to do...they will fail and not have a clue why.


Trump is an absolute guarantee that GOP will lose the White House. It couldn't be any clearer.

I don't think anything is clear at all.

Jeb Bush probably wants to remind them that the Republican Party has not won a Presidential Election without a Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

Trumpkins wants the Republicans to "go with the will of the people". Well, Trump is only winning about 40% of Republican votes in each primary, so that's clearly not a majority of the people. Even worse, his supporters are doing a Nazi salute to a man who relies on white nationalist support. That might be the wrong ideology to take a ride on.

Trump is a uniter. He has united all white males against everyone, including their wives and educated children.

So, baby boy Bush has stopped pouting....what a tool that one is...the establishment just doesn't get it, do they...bring in Romney and McCain...two failed politicians....then they bring in a bigger failure, Bush....some people just thrive on stupid....that would be the establishment.

The more people know it's stupid to support Trump, the more they double down. It's a matter of, shall we say, honor or face saving?

"...and that, gentlemen, is how we're going to beat Donald Trump. (crickets) Please clap."


Republicans are angry! Grrrrrrrr! They want a revolution! Kill the party and let the people speak!!! But, what do they actually want? Anyone know? "Make America Great" doesn't mean a damn thing. How will Trump create more jobs than Obama already has? Will he drive up wages? Does this silver-platter plutocrat give one slight shite about middle class workers? So far, all we know is that white, low educated men want brown people out and blame an entire religion for the acts a tiny minority of Muslims.

You are exactly the kind of dumbed down buffoon targeted by the Hillary campaign.


The "Establishment" always wins. Otherwise, there wouldn't be an "Establishment"

The Establishment does not always win. There is here or there a rebellion and the Establishment is temporary out of power.

If it is Trump, a lot of Republicans will be voting third party, too.

No they won't. Republicans will vote for Trump whether they like him or not. Either that, or Hillary will wipe out their entire party in 4 years. Hillary will pander to all the minorities and will import millions of immigrants to make sure GOP never wins another election.

Don't fool yourself. If Donald Trump becomes the nominee, the Republican Party will cease to exist. A great many of us refuse to have anything to do with an unprincipled, mentally-ill racist demagogue. Donald Trump is a danger to America and the world and he cannot be allowed to become President, much less the Commander-in-Chief of the most honorable military in the world. If that means the destruction of the Republican Party, then that's just the way it has to be. You can insult Romney as much as you want, but he told you clearly what would happen and he spoke for millions of us who put our country before our party.

You want a globalist take over? Then vote against Trump

Trump targeted the uneducated poor and the intellectually challenged and captured them. They're a cult and they're not going to go away. When he pivots to the establishment, they're not going to accept him. He's got his 20%, and that's about it.

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wich2 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:23 am

I know some folks who have worked with Trump. They say that:

#1. He is not an inherently evil man.

- BUT -

#2. The public face is the genuine face. As ridiculous as it often looks, that IS the reality: EVERYTHING is EVER and ALWAYS about The Donald.

So, on #1, the comparisons to Hitler are off; but on #2, they are right-on.

And as you say, Chief, that kind of a man is in no way suitable for the Presidency of a democracy.

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Postby RayKelly » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:44 pm

Wich2 wrote:I know some folks who have worked with Trump. They say... The public face is the genuine face. As ridiculous as it often looks, that IS the reality: EVERYTHING is EVER and ALWAYS about The Donald.
-Craig

Craig,
I don't like to talk politics on the website, but I have to tell you that your above statement has ruined my weekend. :shock:
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Postby Wich2 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:19 pm

Ray, that wasn't my intention!

Only passing on what truth I know. (And again, they did say that - beyond the enormous ego - they did not find him a "bad" man.)

For myself, though (a confirmed Independent, who has voted both tickets), the ever-increasing silliness of his public "discourse" (?!) in this campaign is enough to disqualify him for me. I mean, the CONSTANT -

"Aren't I smart? Aren't I tough? Aren't I handsome? Aren't I a winner?"

- and -

"Isn't he stupid? Isn't he a pussy? isn't she ugly? Aren't they all losers?"

- is just well beyond any adult measure of common sense. If our man Orson was still among us, I think he would be using his brains and wit to EVISCERATE The Donald on chat shows.

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby RayKelly » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:48 am

I vote for candidates of both parties too, but God what an awful crop of candidates on both sides.

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Postby Le Chiffre » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:04 pm

I don't find any of them very inspiring either, but I'll do my duty tomorrow just the same.

the ever-increasing silliness of his public "discourse" (?!) in this campaign is enough to disqualify him for me.

The silliness and fact that he's "beyond any adult measure of common sense" may be why he's getting ten times as much media coverage as any other candidate.

Historian Douglas Brinkley: (Trump) has a billion dollars he's willing to spend, but he's a master manipulator of the media, including cable television. He knows exactly what producers to hit up with, what shows to get on, and that's free media. He's not buying TV commercial time, and that makes him the first really twenty-first century New Media presidential candidate. Nobody's been quite like him.


CNN made the point last August that Trump seemed to be borrowing Morton Downey Jr's shtick. Rush Limbaugh then countered that most of Trump's young followers are too young to remember Downey Jr. but it's not clear if that would have worked in his favor or not. As one guy on Twitter put it, Donald Trump is Morton Downey Jr. with an inheritance. Jeb Bush told Trump during the debates that he couldn't insult his way to the presidency, but that remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders could use a baton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdsnksKSnA

Hillary V. Trump is the aristocracy fighting each other and will be the death of the United States, capitalism, the U.S. Constitution and Western ideals. "Capitalism," ...is pretty much dead already. Imagine, a bulldozer that doesn't like another bulldozer and the middle class pile of rocks in between the two as they joust. The effect will be the same; op. cit. -crushed underfoot.

Yes, an illiterate entertainment society that makes money through "service economics" and international financial speculation is a decadent, finished civilization. We are a country where Aristotle is that guy who married Kennedy's widow. We're done. Next empire, please!

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wich2 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:37 pm

I honestly think that if The Donald does make it to a real PRESIDENTIAL debate (either as Republican, or Independent), he will flounder embarrassingly. The three-ring circus he has made of the Primary Debates (how many have there been - about 50 by now?) will not fly at the next level.

Sure, he'll keep some of his more blind supporters; but the real core of American Voters gets it - the Presidentials are a different animal from the Primaries, and it becomes grown-up time.

And Donald doesn't play that game well.

-Craig

P.S. - (By the way: aggregate polling has consistently shown him with about a 20% chance of winning in November.)

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Postby Le Chiffre » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:19 pm

I suspect you're right, Craig, but then most people figured the bigoted publicity whore would never get this far. It would be risky at this point to under-etimate him, or his rabid followers. Better to try and undercut him before the convention, if possible.

However, Noam Chomsky says: "In my opinion, Cruz is scarier than Trump. Trump is a kind of wildcard, but Cruz is really dangerous, if he means anything he’s saying."
http://smashinginterviews.com/interview ... nd-sanders
Welles fan (and Cruz supporter) Glenn Beck to Kasich after his Ohio win last night: “Kasich, I mean, excuse my language, but, you son of a bitch, the republic is at stake. This is not like a normal race. The republic is at stake.”

But Pat Buchanan says Trump is truly a fresh voice in Republican politics:
“One of the reasons Trump is interesting to listen to is because (what he says) is different, it’s not the old ‘we’re going to balance the budget, we’re going to trim spending’ and all that stuff from the regular Republican Party line that they put out every year and never follow through on.”

In his recent column “Suicide of the GOP – or Rebirth?” Buchanan says the Trump candidacy is “not a hostile takeover of the Republican Party, it is a rebellion of shareholders who are voting to throw out the corporate officers and board of directors that ran the company into the ground.”



Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh thinks the GOP is headed for a contested covention, with Jeb Bush waiting in the wings!
"Contested Convention Talk is Heading off the Rails, and Rush Limbaugh is the Engineer":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... s-driving/
"...if they succeed in denying Trump or Ted Cruz 1,237 delegates by the end of the primary process, I'm here to tell you Jeb Bush is gonna be the nominee. That's what they're gonna do. That's what they've always wanted."


On the democratic side, it's almost over after last night, but here's an interesting defense of Bernie Sanders' Nordic-style economic plan:
"What Americans Don’t Get About Nordic Countries":
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... e-comments
The choices Nordic countries have made have more to do with self-interest than altruism or kinship.The reason Nordics stick with the system is because they can see that they come out ahead—not just as a group, but as individuals.


New Yorker article on "What Bernie Sanders has acheived":
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass ... s-achieved
Particularly since the Citizens United ruling, many politicians, Clinton included, have warned of the corrosive effects of big money on our democracy. But nobody has made the argument as passionately or as powerfully as Sanders. “American democracy is not about billionaires being able to buy candidates and elections,” he said in launching his campaign. “It is not about the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, and other incredibly wealthy individuals spending billions of dollars to elect candidates who will make the rich richer and everyone else poorer…. This is not democracy. This is oligarchy.”

Since Sanders uttered these words, last May, his message hasn’t changed. Day after day, he has spoken in terms that haven’t been heard from a serious major-party candidate since William Jennings Bryan, the great prairie populist, who famously accused his opponent, William McKinley, and the moneyed interests who supported McKinley, of trying to “crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.” (Bryan was referring to the gold standard, which he opposed.)

Bryan never became President, but in attacking the powerful interests that dictated policies in Washington, and calling out the corrupt politicians who were beholden to those interests, he helped to create a popular movement—Progressivism—that would have an enormous impact on American policy making in the first half of the twentieth century, from Teddy Roosevelt’s trust-busting to F.D.R.’s New Deal.

It’s too early to say what Sanders’s legacy will be,...but Sanders has defied the pundits, alarmed the comfortable, and inspired the young. He has demonstrated that Presidential campaigns don’t have to be beholden to big donors. And he has shown that, surprisingly enough, there is still a place in American politics for an independent-minded speaker of uncomfortable truths.


"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wellesnet » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:52 am

Transcript of Donald Trump meeting with Washington Post editorial board:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/po ... ial-board/

For the love of God, can someone tell me how this man has gotten as far as he has! His thought process is all over the place and after reading this interview I still have no idea what he is talking about. He is unable to complete a sentence and form a concise thought. He is nothing but an arrogant, egotistical, thinned skinned bully.

Whenever Trump says "I don't know," watch out. It's his tried and true method of avoiding sticky questions. His most "famous" instance the "I don't know" dodge is when he was asked on CNN about David Duke's endorsement:

""Just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK? I don’t know, did he endorse me or what’s going on, because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke."

Even though he was asked about David Duke at a press conference 2 days before the interview.

I am left with one conclusion: I might as well have been talking to a guy at the bar, that is how much he knew, how in depth his understanding was, and how much thought he had actually put into some of these questions. Nothing wrong with the guy at the bar, I am the guy at the bar too, but I don't want the guy at the bar to be the POTUS.

The New Yorker offers some sample questions from the Trump University Final Exam:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-sh ... final-exam

Anne Coulter:
"Start with the fact that, before any vote is cast on Election Day, the Democrats have already won between 90 and 98 percent of the black vote and 60 to 75 percent of the Hispanic and Asian vote. Unless Republicans run the table on the white vote, they lose.

If there’s still hope, it lies with Trump and only Trump. Donald Trump will do better with black and Hispanic voters than any other Republican...What’s impossible is for any Republican candidate, other than Trump, to win a single state Romney lost. Sen. Ted Cruz’s corny speaking style is creepy to anyone who doesn’t already agree with everything he says. He’s the less likable version of Romney.

Maybe 50 years of Third World immigration means it’s too late, and even Trump can’t win. But it’s an absolute certainty that any other Republican will lose."


Newt: "Americans have made it clear that they are tired of politics as usual. Between stagnant wages, rising healthcare costs, evermore expensive government, and intrusive bureaucracy, people are angry and feel that the future they were once promised is disappearing. They want political leadership that recognizes their pain and their concerns, not a New York/Washington/Los Angeles Establishment elitism that makes plenty of money on the world market, but leaves about 80% of the U.S. population behind."

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wellesnet » Wed May 04, 2016 7:52 pm

Ted Cruz was too creepy to save the GOP from Donald Trump:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topofthe ... story.html
"...a purist conservative will not automatically win the hearts and minds of Republican voters — at least if that person is Ted Cruz. People vote with their gut as much as with their brain and, in their gut, a lot of Republican voters felt queasy when they looked at Cruz. Smarmy, obsequious, self-righteous, calculated, creepy — whatever the precise assessment, most voters just did not like Ted Cruz. His victory in Wisconsin was a high water mark. After that, the more people saw of Cruz, the more they voted for Trump."


Glenn Beck: "Americans Will Never Elect Another GOP President"-
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /83935556/
Beck mourned the future of the GOP on his show the day after the party declared Trump its presumptive nominee and Ted Cruz – his favored candidate – folded his presidential bid, according to Mediaite.

“Donald Trump is the face of the GOP. Well, that makes us crony capitalists. It makes us wafflers. It makes us pretty racist,” Beck said. “It makes us big government guys. Just, you name it — it makes us that.”


Former KKK leader David Duke Hails Donald Trump For Thwarting The 'Jewish Supremacists Who Control Our Country':
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/d ... ur-country
Duke’s guest Kevin MacDonald, known as “the neo-Nazi movement’s favorite academic” because of his anti-Semitic work, agreed that Trump is “appealing implicitly to White America.”

“Jewish extremists” have “made a terribly crazy miscalculation” by opposing Trump, Duke added, “because all they’re really going to be doing by doing a ‘Never Trump’ movement is exposing their alien, anti-American, anti-American-majority position to all the Republicans and they’re going to push people more into awareness that the neocons are the problem, that these Jewish supremacists who control our country are the real problem and the reason why America is not great.”

Duke urged listeners to “make sure that Trump understands that we expect him to follow through on these things and we expect him to be our White Knight, our advocate and our person.”

He said that white nationalists must continue to move the political center to the right in order to make Trump’s ideas more mainstream.

“This is a movement to take America back, and when we say ‘take America back,’ we know exactly what that means,” Duke said.

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Re: Orson bashing Hillary already...

Postby Wellesnet » Wed May 04, 2016 7:56 pm

George Will: "If Trump is nominated, the GOP must keep him out of the White House":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html
Donald Trump’s damage to the Republican Party, although already extensive, has barely begun. Republican quislings will multiply, slinking into support of the most anti-conservative presidential aspirant in their party’s history...Trump would be the most unpopular nominee ever, unable to even come close to Mitt Romney’s insufficient support among women, minorities and young people. In losing disastrously, Trump probably would create down-ballot carnage sufficient to end even Republican control of the House.


Alex Jones tells George Will to blow out what little brains he has left:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/04 ... out/210223
He also attacked Washington Post (which is “openly run by the CIA, look it up”) columnist George Will for his criticisms of Trump, calling Will “Ted Bundy” with a “cute little haircut … classic serial killer look.” Jones continued by claiming Will is a “constitutional rapist. This man is literally mounting America, raping it in the ass, and telling us how great he is.” He then directed Will to “look in the mirror, realize you’re a traitor, and do the right thing, and put a .357 Magnum to your head, and blow what little is left of your brains out all over yourself, OK? You traitor, you Benedict Arnold, you piece of filth.”


Possibly the best thing about this election is that all masks have come off. We are finally seeing the truth about so many who have pretended for so long, and it is so important that we now know for sure all of those that have been hiding behind the NWO (“New World Order”) curtain all these decades.

NWO is not an organization. NWO is a frame of mind: Nation states bad, self-interest-less brotherly love good. Of course, the NWO nitwits have no problem with turning the United States into another Third World hell hole as long as they float above the cultural and economic sewage. You know. Stuff like men in women's bathrooms, queer "marriage", free everything via government-administered theft from the productive
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Jonah Goldberg:
The Democrats have been a cargo cult to the New Deal for nearly a century, and they always think the resurrection is at hand.

That’s what they thought when President Obama was elected in 2008. Boy, were they wrong. The Democratic Party thrived under FDR, but it shriveled under Obama.

“During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats have lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president,” writes NPR’s Mara Liasson. She adds, "Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s."

There are many reasons for this, but one is particularly relevant. Obama lost the traditional heart of the Democratic Party: the white working class. In fairness, the Democrats’ trouble with blue-collar whites pre-dates Obama, but Obama accelerated the process. In 2012, he lost this group by 26 points (62%-36%). Trump is winning with those votes.


Plato's Cave Department
Before It's News:
Donald Trump is a Svengali Who Has Hypnotized Many Americans. What Important Happenings Have We Overlooked Because of His Power?

Donald Trump is the fire in a locked, almost hermetically sealed, room. Those of us stuck in the room are hallucinating because of oxygen deprivation. He is the center of our world; there is, of course, a much bigger world outside of the prison that we are oblivious to. The gravity of this world impacts Trumpmania. Unfortunately, too many are blind to its power.

So much has been going on in the United States and the world during the rise and eventual crescendo of Trumpmania. Donald Trump–and the 2016 GOP presidential primaries–are a car accident. The chattering classes are watching a political campaign version of “Faces of Death”. They/we cannot look away.


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