Hopper / Welles

Discuss two films from Welles' Oja Kodar/Gary Graver period
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Postby Wellesnet » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:50 am

Filip Jan Rymsza talks about "Hopper/Welles", and also about his new directorial effort, "The Mosquito State", which he says was highly influenced by "The Other Side of the Wind".
‘Hopper/Welles’ producer Filip Jan Rymsza talks reviving another Orson Welles film:
https://www.screendaily.com/news/hopper ... 64.article
Following the success of his 1969 debut Easy Rider, Hopper was at work on The Last Movie, which was a resounding commercial failure when released in 1971 but soon achieved cult status.

“You see all the warning signs in terms of Hopper’s responses [to Welles’s questions] in terms of what is about to happen with The Last Movie,” says Rymsza.


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Review of the new film by Massimiliano Studer.
‘Hopper/Welles’: The New Hollywood Strikes Back:
https://www.wellesnet.com/hopper-welles ... od-review/
Hopper/Welles (2020) is a strange Wellesian object that is difficult to classify as always. Officially, in fact, it is a documentary-interview, but it is really much more...it begins as an interview, but turns almost immediately into a kind of Socratic dialogue between a young pupil and his mentor. If it was not a documentary it would almost seem like a psychoanalytic session.


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"American Dreamer", a 1971 documentary by Lawrence Schiller and Kit Carson about Hopper, filmed a couple of months after the Welles interview, when Hopper was struggling to finish the editing of "The Last Movie", his ill-fated 1971 followup to "Easy Rider", at his home in Taos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hpYYhLJyc

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2018 Guardian review of "The Last Movie":
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/d ... nis-hopper
This year’s posthumous release of Orson Welles’s The Other Side of the Wind may reignite interest in another misunderstood film of that period that Welles’ work very much resembles, and which may well have inspired it: Dennis Hopper’s fascinating, flawed, experimental The Last Movie from 1971, about the ritualistic voodoo of cinema, now on rerelease - featuring cameos by Samuel Fuller and Kris Kristofferson. After the smash-hit success of Easy Rider in 1969, awestruck Universal studio bosses agreed to give Hopper and his co-writer Stewart Stern (screenwriter of Rebel Without a Cause) a million-dollar budget and an undertaking not to interfere with what they were doing. Hopper took their money, went to Peru and over a year filmed this audacious experimental picture about a movie shoot. Universal didn’t know what to do with it and it was hardly seen.


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2018 article by Josh Karp, author of "Orson Welles's Last Movie", that tells the full story of what happened to "The Last Movie".
Dennis Hopper's Mad Vision
The actor-director's follow-up to Easy Rider was going to change Hollywood. That is, if he could get the damn thing made.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... is-hopper/
The most controversial artistic influence on The Last Movie, however, was Alejandro Jodorowsky, the director of the acid western El Topo,...Jodorowsky’s role in editing The Last Movie has long been the subject of debate. Some claim that the Chilean filmmaker watched a nearly complete version of the film and told Dennis that it was nothing more than a conventional Hollywood movie, encouraging him to strip out the narrative and put it back together like a Cubist painting. (Lawrence Schiller claims Jodorowsky “destroyed the film.”)

Jodorowsky, however, claims the opposite. In his version of the story, Hopper’s film was a mess when he arrived in Taos, and Jodorowsky personally spent several days re-editing the entire picture, giving it a clear narrative line and bringing the story to a deeply moving conclusion. The difference between his cut and Hopper’s, Jodorowsky explained to me via email, was “the difference between the vision of an artist who takes drugs all day and the vision of an artist who searches a profound truth in abstinence.”

It has been suggested that Jodorowsky’s version still exists somewhere, though it has never been found.


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Filmmaker Alex Cox discusses his 2011 documentary, "Scene Missing", about the making of Hopper's "The Last Movie":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54nmJIlGsEI
Alex Cox: "The film was unseeable for many years. Universal refused to distribute it, and Dennis had to struggle to get the rights back. Eventually, Universal split the film in two, and they made Dennis's version, and then the studio cut their own version, which is called "Chinchero", which has supposedly turned up on television from time to time."


"Scene Missing" is one of a plethora of extras on the recent Bluray release of "The Last Movie", the visual quality of which is very impressive.
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Movie-Blu-r ... B07GVXDZLJ

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby RayKelly » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:24 am

Should HOPPER/WELLES be considered an "Orson Welles film"?
Check out my review of the film, which premiered this week in Venice and will be streamed at the New York Film Festival later this month.
https://www.wellesnet.com/hopper-welles-review-wellesnet/

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby atcolomb » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:56 am

I hope this will show up on Netflix or on disc so i can see it.

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Postby RayKelly » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:43 am

atcolomb wrote:I hope this will show up on Netflix or on disc so i can see it.

You can stream it Sept.28-Oct. 3 through https://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2020/ for $12.

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Postby atcolomb » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:38 am

Thanks Ray for the link.

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Le Chiffre » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:33 pm

AMERICAN DREAMER is really strange, with Hopper at times sounding like a Charles Manson wannabe while he babbles stoned/mystical stuff to a house full of groupies. No wonder he fucked up the post-production of THE LAST MOVIE. Hard to believe it's the same, relatively thoughtful guy that we see in the clip from HOPPER/WELLES.

Maybe switching influences from Welles to Jodorowsky is what did the film in.

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby RayKelly » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:08 pm

From the Deadline roundup of the Venice international Film Festival:

    Documentary Hopper/Welles proved a hit with a number of critics and should appeal to cinephiles in particular. The intimate and revelatory film charts a 1970 conversation between Dennis Hopper, then riding high on the success of Easy Rider, and film world icon Orson Welles.

https://deadline.com/2020/09/venice-film-festival-2020-best-movies-according-critics-1234574321/

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby RayKelly » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm

Hopper/Welles will get its first theatrical showing in the United States at the Queens Drive-in on Friday, Sept. 18, at 8 p.m. The showing is part of the 58th New York Film Festival, which is also streaming the movie.
https://www.wellesnet.com/hopper-welles-queens/

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby jbrooks » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:40 pm

The notion that a nearly 50-year old unfinished documentary by Orson Welles is going to be playing this Friday night at a drive-in movie theater in Queens is a very strange notion indeed.

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Wellesnet » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:13 pm

Playlist review:
‘Hopper/Welles’: The Lost Conversation Between Two Fascinatingly Flawed Legends [Venice Review]:
https://theplaylist.net/hopper-welles-d ... -20200914/

2016 Business Insider article on Hopper's The Last Movie.
The crazy, drug-fueled story behind one of Hollywood's most notorious lost movies:
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-las ... ory-2016-7
Though Hopper put on a face of control and confidence among his hangers-on in Taos, internally he was struggling to find “The Last Movie” in the editing room. Hopper asked Jodorowsky, among many others, to see a cut of the movie. The Chilean director, known for cult surrealist classics "El Topo" and "The Holy Mountain," did and gave Hopper a harsh criticism.

Legend has it that after watching "The Last Movie," Jodorowsky told Hopper that he had failed and only made a conventional Hollywood movie. This motivated Hopper to destroy that cut of the movie and completely redo it with a more experimental eye.

But Jodorowsky told Business Insider that isn't the whole story. He didn't just give advice to Hopper — he got involved in the cutting, too.

"With the help of an assistant, I sat in font of an editing machine and in two days edited the entire movie," Jodorowsky said. "What was left was a magnificent version."

Hopper didn't settle on Jodorowsky's version. He continued to tinker with the edit, which is what Schiller and Carson found themselves walking into when they began filming Hopper for "The American Dreamer."

Though "The American Dreamer" isn't a straight-up documentary, it's honest when Hopper talks about how audiences will react to "The Last Movie."
"If it's nothing more than 'The Magnificent Ambersons,' Orson Welles' second film that made no money, I'll be a very happy man," Hopper said in the movie. "If the audience doesn't accept it then it will be a long, long, long time before we can dream about that audience that I thought was there."

"In that scene he's already telling us that he's going to fail," Schiller said, looking back on it now.

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Wellesnet » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:18 pm

jbrooks wrote:The notion that a nearly 50-year old unfinished documentary by Orson Welles is going to be playing this Friday night at a drive-in movie theater in Queens is a very strange notion indeed.

We live in amazing times. :D

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Wellesnet » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:19 pm

The 58th edition of the New York Film Festival will present a series of free online chats with filmmakers, including a talk featuring the team behind Hopper/Welles -- producer Filip Jan Rymzsa and editor Bob Murawski.
https://www.wellesnet.com/rymzsa-murawski-nyff-talk/

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Wellesnet » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:30 am

Film historian Joseph McBride reviews HOPPER/WELLES, in which a veteran filmmaker confronts the New Hollywood he mostly despises. https://www.wellesnet.com/hopper-welles-easy-rider-mcbride/

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Le Chiffre » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:28 pm

Another great article by Professor McBride. Can't wait to see the movie.

'Their discussions about sex, a key aspect of Other Wind, get a bit lively when Welles-as-Jake says that for an elderly, impotent director filming an orgy, “Your zoom is your only prick.” That ties in with Jake’s suspect machismo, implied impotence, and voyeuristic filming of a protracted orgy sequence.'


Pister: "Or is the camera merely a phallus?"
Why do I suddenly get the feeling that that may be a key insight into the whole Wind project?

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Re: Hopper / Welles

Postby Wellesnet » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:51 pm

Just a reminder that Hopper/Welles is available to watch through streaming starting tonight, 7pm est, and continuing until October 3rd.
https://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2020/


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